#116 Fireside Chat: Trailer Bash 3 Sunday 21 July, 2013

“Trailer Bash 3″

If you missed Episode 116 live last night, you can listen to the recording here or simply use the embedded player below!

Episode 116 of Hunger Games Fireside Chat will air live this Monday, July 22, at 10pm ET/7pm PT! This week, our panel of experts will include Theresa from Down with the Capitol, Kait from Victor’s Village, Kate of HungerGamesTrilogy.net, and Ariel of Nerdy, Wordy, and Over Thirty.

It’s time for another trailer bash! The new Catching Fire trailer has arrived, and we almost can’t believe it. Time is flying…like a mockingjay!

- We’ll kick things off by very briefly recapping some of the Hunger Games-related events that took place at Comic-Con and chatting with our friend Natasha, who was in attendance.

- We’ll then spend the rest of the show doing a second-by-second analysis and discussion of the new Catching Fire trailer, which debuted on Saturday at Lionsgate’s Comic-Con panel and online at Yahoo! Movies. Once you’ve watched it, leave us a comment here and let us know your thoughts/observations! As always, we’ll try to read as many of your comments as possible during the show. :)

You can chat with other listeners throughout the live show by using our hashtag #HGFiresideChat on Twitter! We recommend TweetChat to easily follow along with the conversation.

(If you missed our last episode, click here to listen!)

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Adam (Host): @AdamSpunberg
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Kait: @VictorsVillage
Kate: @HGT_Fansite
Ariel: @Madam_Pince
Natasha: @TFGeekGirl


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17 Comments

  • Maia says:

    Wow , I love the trailer, I feel a little bad because I think they showed a lot , and I am very happy with Frances Lawrence he is really honoring the book. I even can kind of make Chaff’s missing hand !!!!!!

    My favorite part is seeing all the victors onstage and watching Katniss’s dress transform into the mockingjay , that gave me goosebumps !

  • Scottsdale says:

    My favorite aspect of the trailer is that so much of Francis Lawrence’s vision remains almost identical to Gary Ross’s. That building sitting in the lake outside the Capitol, and Snow’s mansion at the end of the Avenue of the Tributes all look exactly the same!! And I imagine that Cinna’s line to Katniss about “getting to work” could either be about Katniss trying on her wedding dresses, or perhaps he is referring to her “Victor hobby”, in which Katniss pretends to be a fashionista. Regardless, it’s really awesome that they’ve included this aspect, as the two are very obviously talking in Katniss’s victor home versus any Capitol building. The special effects and Capitol scenes all looked phenomenal, my excitement has been catered to, but not quite quenched!!

  • The trailer is spectacular. I love Francis Lawrence’s visual style and how the movie looks more futuristic, menacing, and mature. The returning cast look very confident in their performances (from the little we’ve seen) and the new cast make me very hopeful.

    We knew the costuming was better this time around, but in the trailer we see that the special effects look to be much improved as well. Thanks for the bigger budget Lionsgate!

    I am really excited about some of the details we saw in the trailer. I wrote about them here. http://tributesofpawnee.tumblr.com/post/56052247201/catching-fire-trailer-thoughts

  • Terrence says:

    I think I speak for everyone in saying that the trailer was stunningly incredible – it really blew me away the first time I saw it, and second time, and third…

    Drawing comparisons between Gary and Francis kind of makes me uncomfortable. I feel a lot of people are unfair on Gary.. but I have to admit this trailer certainly shows a massive step-up from The Hunger Games. Whether that’s due to the increased budget or Francis’ vision, I don’t know. His style is clearly seen, in his photography and shot selection, and the way he portrays his image of Panem. However, it’s obvious that Francis has a lot of respect for Gary’s work on THG eg; the Capitol looks pretty much identical.

    Favourite moments – too many to list! Katniss’ mockingjay dress, the holograms in the training centre, Effie at the QQ reaping.. the list goes on!

    I can already tell that Catching Fire is going to be a solid, emotional and fantastic all round movie, jam packed with amazing costumes, acting and visual effects. Just goes to show what can be achieved when all the right people come together and work this hard on one movie – we’re been spoilt here folks!

  • Maia says:

    Would it be bad to say if that we like Frances Lawrence’s version better than Gary Ross?

  • Colin says:

    There were so many notable moments in the trailer I could write all day. So, on the whole I was impressed at how much bigger and beautifully shot this film looks. One of my biggest complaints from the first movie was the flat photograpphy. The color palette Gary Ross chose can be made beautiful and interesting (“The Lives of Others” for example) but the cinematographer failed.

    When Snow says “Would you like to be in a real war?” I got chills!

  • When I watched the trailer, I all of a sudden became hot and passed out… I was successfully resuscitated at the local hospital where the doctor told me I had KATNISS FEVER!!!! LOL. In all seriousness, the trailer blew my mind. Francis Lawrence has beautifully opened up the world of Panem in a way that both a book-educated fan or casual movie goer can appreciate. The arena made my jaw drop. the color is explosive. Francis has completely won over my favor. ALSO, HOW AWESOME IS JOHANNA WITH THAT AX!!! DISTRICT 7 REPRESENT!!!

  • Lauren says:

    I absolutely love the trailer. It’s amazing. Francis Lawrence is a great director. I’m so glad we got to see Sam Claflin and Jena Malone in action. It erased any doubts from my mind. Thank you, Francis!!!

  • mse says:

    One of my favorite scenes in the entire Catching Fire book is the confrontation between Snow and Katniss at the beginning of the story – but with the added Plutarch/Snow dialogues I almost gave up on that making into the movie. But now! Those few brief moments of them together and Donald Sutherland saying ‘Would you like to be in a real war?’ made the trailer for me. Actually, I feel like it made the whole movie for me already. :P

    Let me just say though that I will not be comparing Gary Ross and Francis Lawrence. Their style and approach is so much different, but that doesn’t make one better than the other and from what we can see, they’re still both great (and I think I’m actually kinda quoting J-Law on this). You see, I respect so much of the decisions that Gary made regarding the first movie, the way he made it unlike any regular blockbuster and gave it a very unique vision and voice. As we could’ve seen in the DVD extras, there were actually a lot of thoughts going on behind every detail in that movie.

    But holy everything! Catching Fire is going to be visually breathtaking! Those brief shots alone of Katniss at the lake or sitting at the end of the train car just blew my mind. There is still a continuity with the first movie, but now we can see that there is also a very clear deviation when it comes to the photography or the costumes and the effects. If we weren’t sure before, we know that now: there’s definitely much more money involved this time around.

    As for the scenes included, I know that many people expected much less revealing footage, but let’s face it. The teaser was great but we needed THIS trailer to bring in all those viewers who could potentially shatter the first movie’s box office numbers (I’d expect a lot more international income this time around, the series has really started to spread by now – but maybe I should write about this in a future box office prediction episode). The Mockingjay dress transformation in particular fitted very well into the trailer’s narrative, which was interwoven with a (mostly) subtle revolution theme. Yes, it’s an iconic moment, but we still have so much more of those to look forward to when we finally get to see the movie in November!

    Overall, so far I really like everything I see: every detail and even every change and added scene. To be quite honest, I fear that I’m already in love with this movie. And it may not be reasonable and it may not be logical but I do – so why wouldn’t you? :D

    P.S.: As for the Comic-Con panel all I can really say is that I love our cast! :)

  • Gaby N says:

    Wow, wow, and WOW!!! This Catching FIre trailer is all I hoped it would be and more. First off, the visuals were striking. (Shoutout to Lionsgate for the bigger budget) All of the Capitol shots were each 10x better than in the first film. The CGI was fantastic. I was left literally screaming after Katniss twirled to make her dress a mockingjay.

    People are saying that they revealed too much in the trailer, while I kind of agree/understand, but the first real trailer for THG showed just as many spoilers (the interview dress, training, pre-games, reaping, and stops right before the games), so really I dont think it is that big of a deal.

    FINNICK! If anyy people skeptical that Sam Claflin could play Finnick Odair, no one is complaining now because Finnick looks FANTASTIC!!

    I also love how they showed Johanna’s fierce ax skills, and if I hadn’t read the books I would have definitely been worried for Katniss and Peeta!!

    Also in the shot of Peeta and Katniss riding in the chariot in their burning-coal costumes, they look so triumphant, which is exactly how it was described in the book. I love that photo so much. They look like models!!!

    I really loved the trailer, and am counting down the days until November 22!!!

  • Katie says:

    I really love the trailer! I feel like Francis Lawrence or whoever decided on Katniss’ appearance in this movie did an exceptional job! Katniss seems to have almost black hair, grey eyes, and olive skin like in the book. Effie’s look is gorgeous-I love that butterfly outfit so much!!!!:D This is going to be amazing!

  • Samantha Noa says:

    I love the look of this trailer. The cinematography is so much better. I know Gary was trying to make the film feel more real by having the non-glossy shots but in the Capitol especially it’s needed. I like the costumes better. Katniss is darker skinned. Everything is just so much better and much closer to the book. I liked the first film however I felt Gary gave it a little too much of a cartoon-y look than a futuristic look.

  • Honestly, I can’t pick a specific moment that was my favorite in the trailer. I think it was just the vibe of the whole thing that I loved. After viewing the trailer I finally felt like what I saw was really Panem. The train, District 12, that amazing hovercraft, the city shots, and the training center, everything just seemed RIGHT. Obviously, this movie has a bigger budget, but I think it’s more than that–dare I say it–’Catching Fire’ has a director with a clearer and more accurate vision of this world.

  • I think the trailer is perfect and amazing, it captures so much of the emotion you feel while reading perfectly. I loved all of it but one of my favorite parts is seeing some of the mockingjay dress, because who didn’t want to see it. Also the teaser and this trailer have very distinct feels and I think that’s very interesting thinking of how it will all come together in the end. :D

  • Cassie says:

    I absolutely loved the trailer!! The only thing that I didn’t really care for was changing Gale from getting in trouble for hunting Turkeys, to tackling a peacekeeper. I know I haven’t seen it in context yet, but I just think that if Gale had tackled a peacekeeper, he would have been executed. Him getting almost whipped to death for hunting a Turkey shows just how hardcore things have gotten in district 12. Other than that, superb!!

    • Yes, that’s what doesn’t sit well with me, either. The Peacekeepers in District 11 executed a man just for whistling Rue’s lullaby during the Victory Tour. If, after that scene, they show Gale tackling a Peacekeeper and not getting executed, they’re not doing a good job showing that the new regime in District 12 is hardcore. The audience will just be left thinking that it’s not as bad as in District 11, I’m sure they would have at least whipped someone for tackling a Peacekeeper under Cray, too. And in Capitol, they’d at least cut his tongue. The whole point is that Thread comes and takes over and they start punishing people harshly for things that the Peacekeepers used to turn a blind eye too.

  • I thought at first that the trailer was too revealing, but on second thoughts, it’s really not. The do reveal one big thing – what the Quarter Quell is about, which I hoped they would not do… but come to think of it, it would probably be too difficult to do marketing for the movie without revealing it. Non-book people would be wondering “What, are we supposed to think the shirtless guy and the girl with the pointy teeth are teenagers? And what are these middle-aged people doing here, and that old lady? I thought this was about kids fighting other kids?” But other than that, there’s very little that’s actually revelatory for someone who hasn’t read the book. Without having read the book, the audience would probably not understand the importance of the dress or the watery Arena, and by the time they get into the cinema, they may forgot the details from the trailer. There are lots of things they will be surprised by in the movie: the development of the Katniss/Peeta relationship, Cinna’s death, Mags volunteering for Annie, the personalities and allegiances of the other Tributes – first the persona Finnick or Johanna show to the world, then their actual backstories, all the events in the Arena, Plutarch the rebel, the alliance and plan and Haymitch’s role in it, and the shocking ending.

    A few things I’ve noticed about the editing of the scenes:

    - At 1.32, Peeta and Haymitch are not really having a conversation. These are two lines from two different scenes. Peeta saying “So what do we do?” was also used in the teaser trailer, and it looked like it was the part of the conversation between Haymitch, Katniss and Peeta in District 11. So, they either edited the teaser trailer in a misleading way, or they did it with the trailer, but the latter seems more likely – Peeta and Haymitch don’t even seem to be in the same room in the trailer. Unless Peeta’s line doesn’t actually belong to either of those two scenes.

    - At 2.13, there’s another misleading edit. It looks like Snow is reacting to the transformation of Katniss’ dress. However, if you compare that shot to the shot of Snow watching Katniss’ interview with Caesar: when he’s watching the interview, he’s in his cabinet, dressed in a read suit with a white shirt. But when he gets up, shocked by something he sees, he’s dressed in black and he’s in another room, which looks like the Gamemakers’ room.

    - The shot of Katniss saying “we have to go before they kill us” is different from the same shot in the teaser trailer. In the teaser trailer, Katniss is standing on the right side and Gale to the left, and she says “We have to go, Gale, before they kill us. They WILL kill us.” In the trailer, she’s standing on the left and Gale to the right, and she doesn’t say Gale’s name: “We have to go before they kill us. They WILL kill us”. So, either they used two different takes, or they edited the shots differently, flipping it mirror-style, or edited out Gale’s name for the trailer, or all of those.


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