#99 Fireside Chat: Fireside Recs: 'Divergent' Sunday 17 March, 2013

“Fireside Recs: ‘Divergent'”

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Episode 99 of Hunger Games Fireside Chat will air live this Monday, March 18, at 10pm ET/7pm PT! This week, our panel of experts will include some of our fabulous friends from Down with the Capitol, Crystal of Mockingjay.net and FictionalFood.net, Courtney of Welcome to District 12, Kait from Victor’s Village, and Ashley of Divergent Lexicon!

It’s finally time for another Fireside Recs episode! Since casting for the Divergent movie is finally beginning to wrap up, we figured Veronica Roth’s YA dystopian series would make a fitting choice for this week’s discussion!

– We’ll spend the first half of the show talking about Divergent: why some of us like it/why some of us don’t like it, why it’s so popular amongst fans of The Hunger Games, what we think about the casting choices for the film adaptation, etc. Ashley from Divergent Lexicon will be joining us for this discussion, and we’re very excited to have her!

– The rest of the show will be spent on the IMDb topic that we had to postpone a couple of weeks ago. Remember when we found Trexler Hoverhound and other similarly mysterious characters on the Hunger Games IMDb page last year? Now it’s time to take a look at the Catching Fire IMDb page! Who is “Gamekeeper Disciple”? What about “District 4 Family Member”? Does the presence of a “District 11 Rioter” mean we’re going to see another D11 riot scene? While these roles are all clearly background/extra roles added to the page by the actors themselves, they may shed some light on what we can expect to see in November. (Thanks to Satsuma for this suggestion!)

You can chat with other listeners throughout the live show by using our hashtag #HGFiresideChat on Twitter! We recommend TweetChat to easily follow along with the conversation.

(If you missed our last episode, click here to listen!)

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Follow this week’s participants on Twitter:
Adam (Host): @AdamSpunberg
Savanna (Co-Host/Producer): @MlleNouveau
Down with the Capitol: @HungerGamesDWTC
Crystal: @pikko / @mockingjaynet / @FictionalFood
Courtney: @WtoD12
Kait: @VictorsVillage
Ashley: @DivergentNation

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  • beachboy13ds says:

    Any idea yet if this will be a spoiler-free review? This book has been on my list for a long time, and I plan on starting it within the next few weeks. Just curious! Love the show!! Thanks for keeping me entertained on a weekly basis!!

    • Their recs (recommendation) episodes so far have been spoiler-free – they didn’t reveal anything about Matched other than the basic premise and their ratings of the books, and IIRC they also managed to talk about The Hobbit without mentioning anything about the plot.

    • Savanna says:

      Sorry beachboy, I’m just now seeing this comment! We always try to make our Recs segments VERY SPOILER-FREE. We all HATE spoilers and the last thing we want to do is ruin something for someone! 🙂

  • Colin says:

    I didn’t like Divergent. The division of the society into personality types is not convincing or even plausible. Tris was a strong and interesting character but that wasn’t enough for me to enjoy the book.

  • After reading the Hunger Games, I began to binge on dystopian novels. (Okay, I only read 3 other series, but hey, that’s a lot of reading to do in two weeks!)
    The most surprising of all the dystopian novels I tried was Divergent. I read it faster than the wind, and it was so good, my inner book critic could only find minimal flaws, and kept on comparing it to the awesomeness of the Hunger Games.
    I think Divergent really appeals to Hunger Games fans for several reasons. They both have stronger female characters who (spoiler alert!) have to deal with both a revolution of sorts and a handsome boy, both face challenges head on and triumph, and both are filled with action, romance, and obviously everything that comes with a dystopian novel such as an evil government, and a different kind of society.
    However, I like that it’s not a rip off of the Hunger Games, and that it really sets itself apart form other popular dystopian books (like Matched or Delerium, although I enjoyed both of those too.)
    I guess my point is, it really isn’t surprising that a lot of HG fans really enjoy Divergent, and I can’t really think of anything else to say, so I’m going to end this comment before I say anything else that makes no sense.

  • CakesAndCupcakes says:

    I really liked the book Divergent. I luv how Tris is such a strong and interesting person to read about. I luv how this book can keep you on your toes and its very interesting to watch the story unfold and bloom into something very intriguing. Veronica is a very talented writer and i luv her so much!

  • Samantha says:

    I loved the concept. IT was a great idea. IT was interesting and addicting and a little seductive, not gonna lie.
    You know what it reminded me of, though? Twilight.
    The juvenille language, the sexual undertones, the character of Four…it didn’t remind me of the Hunger Games at all. It reminded me of Twilight,

  • satsuma says:

    Nice introduction to Divergent! It’s interesting that the series has been criticized for being too much like THG, but no one has ever mentioned that the Faction concept seems VERY similar to the Houses in Harry Potter. Dauntless’s focus on bravery seems very reminiscent of Gryffindor, while Erudite values intelligence and wears blue, much like Ravenclaw. Though the other factions don’t really have a corresponding House.

    I also recall from my HP fan days, that while the casual fan really liked the House concept and had fun trying to figure out what House they’d be sorted into, there were many who thought the whole Sorting process was disturbing, especially considering kids being sorted as young as age 10, and hoped the system would be dismantled by the end of the series. I find myself wondering if Veronica Roth was one of those fans.

    I’d love for you guys to tackle “Delirium” next, as that seems to be gaining on THG and Divergent as the next great YA dystopian phenomenon, especially with the intriguing news that it will be adapted, NOT into a movie, but a TV series!

    Or, perhaps you can alternate “up and coming” YA dystopian works with older, if not quite classic, ones like The Giver and Ender’s Game? I think it was the Giver series that REALLY started up the popularity of “dystopia for kids”. And Ender’s Game has been compared to THG, though I’m loath to explain why, for fear of spoilers.

    Also, thanks for your insightful discussion of the tidbits to be gleaned from the CF IMDB page! Where Annie is concerned, while I don’t know if “D4 family member” is her, I will point out that the HP movies DID use a “placeholder” or “glorified extra” actor to play Cedric in the PoA movie, before his official movie introduction. Even though they COULD have gotten away with not showing him at all, much as they cut out Cho Chang. So, I can certainly see LG doing the same with Annie.

    • Savanna says:

      I’m sure we will talk about Delirium soon! 🙂 Most of us are fans of that series and we even partied with Lauren Oliver while in L.A. last year! She’s such a great person!

  • The Outraged Capitol Woman is probably outraged that “pregnant” Katniss is being forced back into the Arena.

    I don’t think much of the absence of characters on IMDB page. Some extras have added themselves, but that doesn’t mean that everyone did, and that there are no minor roles other than those listed on the IMDB page. For starters, we remember this audition videos for “Idiom” that were posted a few months ago, which included Rue’s sister and Thresh’s sister, as well as Peeta’s brother (and it was the same actor, Josh lookalike Isaac King, whose friend had announced on Twitter that he was in the movie as Peeta’s brother, before King deleted his account), but none of them are listed on the IMDB page, and neither are the rest of Peeta’s family, or Gale’s family. Likewise, the absence of Young Haymitch on the IMDB page does not 100% confirm that we will not see any of Haymitch’s games. (Though if they show it, it certainly won’t be as long as in the book.)

    Using extras for important characters before an actor is cast is not that unusual, “Heroes” did it for several episodes in season 1 with various extras playing Sylar with a baseball hat over their faces, and voice actor Maurice LaMarche providing his voice on the answering machine, before he was finally cast. In the case of Annie, they probably wouldn’t be telling in a casting call that they’re looking for an Annie stand-in, it was probably something like “woman in her 20s, dark hair” and she would be told she has to scream and cry and look upset. The extras are people from Atlanta coming to do the work for a movie, many of them may not have read the book so an extra playing Annie might not realize she’s actually playing a named character.

    • Savanna says:

      Agreed about the Outraged Capitol Woman! 🙂 And you’re right, the absence of certain characters isn’t anything to fret over. We should all try to save our hand-wringing for the night of the premiere!

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